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31 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:43,690 hey Ryan my name is Brandon and I 32 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:44,720 thought it would take this opportunity 33 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:50,090 to share my story about two sightings 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:51,860 that I've had in my life 35 00:01:58,900 --> 00:01:55,490 I don't share these with just anybody in 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:01:58,910 everybody typically the first event 37 00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:02,090 happened back in 2003 and I've shared 38 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:05,030 that with maybe a dozen people since 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:09,590 then people that I trust and I know 40 00:02:18,330 --> 00:02:14,570 believe me and trust what I say and so 41 00:02:22,510 --> 00:02:18,340 anyways I just got inspired listening to 42 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:22,520 others share their encounters and I 43 00:02:28,660 --> 00:02:26,300 thought I would do the same so like I 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:28,670 said the first of the two sightings that 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:31,010 I've had happened back in 2003 in the 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:34,730 summer I was in Northern Neck part of 47 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:39,530 Virginia towards the coast and it's a 48 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:44,030 very agricultural rural area a lot of 49 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:46,670 woodland out there too 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:50,390 my friend Jenn and I had been out there 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:52,250 visiting a friend a mutual friend and we 52 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:55,610 were on our way back to her parents 53 00:02:59,740 --> 00:02:56,959 house in Southern Maryland where we were 54 00:03:02,500 --> 00:02:59,750 staying for the night and we were 55 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:02,510 driving along a two-lane roads it was a 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:06,790 very dark night I emphasize that because 57 00:03:16,990 --> 00:03:12,410 it made the encounter that we had quite 58 00:03:19,150 --> 00:03:17,000 a bit more intense I believe because it 59 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:19,160 was like a black canvas out that night 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:21,040 there weren't any street lights around 61 00:03:26,650 --> 00:03:25,010 there was just thick woods on both sides 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:26,660 of this two-lane road that we were 63 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:28,130 driving along and it was kind of a 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:34,100 straight narrow road and so we're riding 65 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:35,930 along and I'm in the passenger seat I 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:40,910 looked down to pick out a CD out of a CD 67 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:44,410 book that she had this was you know pre 68 00:03:51,780 --> 00:03:46,840 digital music era 69 00:03:56,580 --> 00:03:51,790 and I'm looking at her CDs and as I'm 70 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:56,590 doing so I see this very intense blue 71 00:04:02,309 --> 00:03:58,959 light come pouring in the windshield and 72 00:04:05,369 --> 00:04:02,319 so I immediately look up and keep in 73 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:05,379 mind this whole thing lasted maybe five 74 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:10,799 seconds but I remember so vividly every 75 00:04:16,289 --> 00:04:13,900 millisecond of it that when I play it 76 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:16,299 out in my head it feels much longer than 77 00:04:20,159 --> 00:04:16,479 that 78 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:20,169 but you know this blue light fills the 79 00:04:28,260 --> 00:04:22,960 car I look up and to the left above the 80 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:28,270 tree line I see this bright brilliantly 81 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:31,510 bright blue light that's kind of oblong 82 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:33,070 shaped kind of shaped like a football 83 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:36,880 the color was like a little bit lighter 84 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:40,030 of a royal blue color it was all that 85 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:44,200 same color and it was glowing intensely 86 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:48,520 bright and so in my heads if it had just 87 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:52,720 been me I might have questioned myself I 88 00:04:57,450 --> 00:04:55,210 will point out neither of us were 89 00:05:00,379 --> 00:04:57,460 intoxicated in any way no drugs and 90 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:00,389 alcohol that night we were so brisk abhi 91 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:05,020 both of us ends I might have questioned 92 00:05:09,210 --> 00:05:07,750 even though I was sober that I was my 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:09,220 eyes are playing tricks on me or 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:12,250 something like that but the second that 95 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:14,050 it clicks in my head like I'm thinking 96 00:05:19,170 --> 00:05:17,710 my head what is this Jin says that exact 97 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:19,180 thing out loud she's like what is that 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:22,990 and that made the hair stand up on my 99 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:25,930 arms because to me that added so much 100 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:28,180 validity in that moment as she's seeing 101 00:05:36,270 --> 00:05:33,520 it to so almost immediately like a 102 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:36,280 second or two after that after she says 103 00:05:41,370 --> 00:05:38,760 that out loud it went from this 104 00:05:43,650 --> 00:05:41,380 stationary position in the sky and I'll 105 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:43,660 point out I had nothing to compare it to 106 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:46,180 in the sky because the sky was so dark 107 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:51,760 out I couldn't tell if it was close and 108 00:05:57,970 --> 00:05:54,340 smaller or if it was far away and larger 109 00:06:01,410 --> 00:05:57,980 there was no sense of scale to apply 110 00:06:05,950 --> 00:06:01,420 but it went from completely stationary 111 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:05,960 to just basically gone in like the snap 112 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:08,960 of a finger and I know that it didn't 113 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:11,150 just vanish or turn its lights off or 114 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:14,080 something that it actually quickly 115 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:17,870 jetted away because again it was so dark 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:20,840 out and this object was so bright that 117 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:23,450 my eyes were able to pick up just a 118 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:26,750 split second of a trail I saw this blue 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:31,490 streak take off which was pretty much 120 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:33,890 parallel with the road we were traveling 121 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:37,400 on it just shot straight ahead of in the 122 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:38,960 same direction we were going at 123 00:06:45,130 --> 00:06:41,510 lightning speed I can't even begin to 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:45,140 fathom how fast but if I had to been for 125 00:06:48,850 --> 00:06:46,610 that trail that my eye picked up for 126 00:06:50,950 --> 00:06:48,860 just a split second to attest to that I 127 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:50,960 would have had any clue what happened to 128 00:06:58,330 --> 00:06:52,130 it 129 00:07:01,450 --> 00:06:58,340 sound or not we did not have the windows 130 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:01,460 down we were listening to music so I 131 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:04,460 can't speak to that portion of it but 132 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:08,360 what I did witness both of us we could 133 00:07:15,370 --> 00:07:11,360 not explain Jen got very shook up by it 134 00:07:17,740 --> 00:07:15,380 she was physically shaking and for our 135 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:17,750 safety I encouraged her to pull over and 136 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:19,100 let me drive the rest of the way home 137 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:23,330 and so we did that we traded seats once 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:24,260 we got back in the car 139 00:07:30,490 --> 00:07:28,010 Jen had the idea she said let's not talk 140 00:07:33,340 --> 00:07:30,500 about it for now let's wait till we get 141 00:07:36,190 --> 00:07:33,350 back to my parents house and I'll get 142 00:07:39,940 --> 00:07:36,200 some colored pencils and some paper and 143 00:07:42,610 --> 00:07:39,950 we'll draw out what we saw and compare 144 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:42,620 the two and see if we think we saw the 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:46,400 same thing so we did that we said maybe 146 00:07:51,010 --> 00:07:48,890 five words the rest of the ride home and 147 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:51,020 then we got back to her parents house in 148 00:07:58,870 --> 00:07:55,310 Southern Maryland and she went first she 149 00:08:02,890 --> 00:07:58,880 said at the kitchen table and drew hers 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:02,900 out i sat in the living room and tried 151 00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:05,090 to distract myself and calm myself down 152 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:08,180 but watching a couple minutes of TV once 153 00:08:10,999 --> 00:08:09,950 she was done we trade it out and I did 154 00:08:14,570 --> 00:08:11,009 the same thing 155 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:14,580 and then we compared the two and we drew 156 00:08:20,989 --> 00:08:16,830 the exact same thing the exact same 157 00:08:23,209 --> 00:08:20,999 shape we use the same color for it we 158 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:23,219 drew it in the same position above the 159 00:08:30,619 --> 00:08:27,089 tree line to our left it was a mirror 160 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:30,629 copy basically of one another and we 161 00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:32,760 felt like that added another layer of 162 00:08:38,029 --> 00:08:35,519 validity to the fact that it was 163 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:38,039 something tangible it was something that 164 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:39,930 was truly there in the sky in that 165 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:42,690 moment and it looked and behaved like 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:46,440 nothing we had seen before so after that 167 00:08:51,710 --> 00:08:48,810 I had always kind of since I was younger 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:51,720 been a believer I I always kind of 169 00:08:57,860 --> 00:08:53,970 understood the fact that you know this 170 00:09:01,340 --> 00:08:57,870 universe is infinite and who are we to 171 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:01,350 say there is not an abundant amount of 172 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:05,600 life out there whether it be in our own 173 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:08,160 reality our own universe whether it's 174 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:10,860 coming from some sort of other dimension 175 00:09:16,370 --> 00:09:14,370 you know I I have no clue but I know 176 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:16,380 that the possibility for it to come from 177 00:09:23,389 --> 00:09:19,730 elsewhere in this universe the fact that 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:23,399 life certainly exists elsewhere in the 179 00:09:31,790 --> 00:09:27,410 universe I went into that experience 180 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:31,800 already believing it's fairly likely but 181 00:09:40,009 --> 00:09:35,550 seeing that really added to that it it 182 00:09:42,530 --> 00:09:40,019 it really reinforced the idea that the 183 00:09:44,629 --> 00:09:42,540 things that people claim to see they're 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:44,639 probably you know a lot of them are 185 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:46,050 probably telling the truth of course a 186 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:48,180 bunch of them are probably making it up 187 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,399 and wanting attention but you know I 188 00:09:56,780 --> 00:09:52,560 experienced it too I became one of those 189 00:09:59,780 --> 00:09:56,790 people and so that was my first sighting 190 00:10:03,350 --> 00:09:59,790 the second sighting happened 16 years 191 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:03,360 later it was actually early fall 2019 192 00:10:10,129 --> 00:10:07,350 just last year and I stopped at a gas 193 00:10:13,939 --> 00:10:10,139 station in Roanoke Virginia where I live 194 00:10:19,579 --> 00:10:13,949 and ran in the gas station real quick I 195 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:19,589 came back out and it was a beautiful day 196 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:24,810 blue skies no clouds it was about 5:15 197 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:30,470 in the afternoon so it was too early for 198 00:10:36,290 --> 00:10:32,910 stars to be plentiful in the sky 199 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:36,300 anything like that but I happened to 200 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:37,680 look up and I was looking around at the 201 00:10:42,530 --> 00:10:40,950 beautiful blue sky and I looked to my 202 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:42,540 right of where I was standing and I kind 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:46,950 of turned and I saw this round solid 204 00:10:51,770 --> 00:10:48,930 white object in the sky 205 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:51,780 and it was literally the only thing in 206 00:10:59,330 --> 00:10:54,090 the sky it was the only thing on this 207 00:11:00,950 --> 00:10:59,340 blue canvas of a sky that I saw and so I 208 00:11:02,690 --> 00:11:00,960 thought huh that's interesting and I'm 209 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:02,700 thinking to myself like what could that 210 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:04,770 be because that my first thought was 211 00:11:10,490 --> 00:11:08,730 maybe it was a plane or a drone or 212 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:10,500 something like that but it made no noise 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:13,170 and a similar circumstance to the first 214 00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:16,770 encounter there was no sense of scale to 215 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:19,950 apply it was just a blue sky with 216 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:24,120 nothing else around it so I thought well 217 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:27,270 if it's a plane then I'll stand here and 218 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:28,950 watch it from the same perspective for a 219 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:30,990 couple of minutes and if it gets larger 220 00:11:35,540 --> 00:11:34,050 or smaller then I can assume it's a 221 00:11:37,370 --> 00:11:35,550 plane either coming my direction or 222 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:37,380 going away but I knew it wasn't 223 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:40,560 traveling left to right it did not sway 224 00:11:44,900 --> 00:11:42,420 in that position for a minute so I'm 225 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:44,910 watching to see if I do see a change in 226 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:48,300 size and then after a couple of minutes 227 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:52,710 it starts erratically moving around the 228 00:11:59,810 --> 00:11:55,230 sky and at varying speeds it went 229 00:12:02,270 --> 00:11:59,820 left-right up-down diagonal at slower 230 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:02,280 speeds at very quick speeds where it's 231 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:05,820 like it just like portal jumped to a 232 00:12:12,590 --> 00:12:10,350 different part of the sky and I was by 233 00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:12,600 myself in that moment watching it and 234 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:14,790 just flabbergasted trying to figure out 235 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:16,590 what is that and it's not making any 236 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:21,600 sound as quite as can be and then I 237 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:23,520 noticed that there's about a dozen other 238 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:26,340 people in the parking lot looking up at 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:28,290 the same thing and while it's bouncing 240 00:12:33,310 --> 00:12:31,290 around the sky and you know we're all 241 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:33,320 just standing there kind of you know 242 00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:36,120 bumfuzzled by what we're seeing and we 243 00:12:38,650 --> 00:12:37,279 all end up kind of congregate 244 00:12:40,239 --> 00:12:38,660 together in the middle of the parking 245 00:12:45,429 --> 00:12:40,249 lot and watching it together for 246 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:45,439 probably fifteen minutes and I was 247 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:48,290 actually the last to give up on watching 248 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:50,689 it I was actually the only one that 249 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:52,910 stood there and watched it until it 250 00:12:58,449 --> 00:12:55,910 vanished and I couldn't tell where it 251 00:13:00,759 --> 00:12:58,459 went it just vanished 252 00:13:02,619 --> 00:13:00,769 but everybody stood there for several 253 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:02,629 minutes and we talked I stood there for 254 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:06,490 at least 15 minutes watching it and 255 00:13:13,809 --> 00:13:10,550 could not explain its movements it did 256 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:13,819 not behave like anything that I've ever 257 00:13:22,119 --> 00:13:19,100 seen in person or you know through video 258 00:13:24,610 --> 00:13:22,129 or anything like that I cannot even 259 00:13:27,129 --> 00:13:24,620 begin to explain how it was moving in 260 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:27,139 the way that it moved like I said it was 261 00:13:33,429 --> 00:13:30,170 solid white and I don't know if it was 262 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:33,439 glowing white of its own accord or if it 263 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:36,860 was perhaps reflecting the Sun and that 264 00:13:44,829 --> 00:13:40,160 was giving it a white appearance but 265 00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:44,839 again very erratic aerial vehicles that 266 00:13:50,980 --> 00:13:47,600 we've designed at this point in our 267 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:50,990 history cannot and does not move that 268 00:13:57,340 --> 00:13:55,430 way and so I did take some video of it 269 00:14:01,329 --> 00:13:57,350 but unfortunately the video is not very 270 00:14:04,179 --> 00:14:01,339 compelling because again with it being a 271 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:04,189 solid blue sky I'm moving my phone 272 00:14:08,319 --> 00:14:06,189 around to keep up keep it in the frame 273 00:14:10,179 --> 00:14:08,329 but you're still just saying blue 274 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:10,189 everywhere it goes so when you go back 275 00:14:13,929 --> 00:14:11,809 and watch the video without being there 276 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:13,939 it just looks like an object that's 277 00:14:17,889 --> 00:14:15,769 staying completely still against this 278 00:14:21,819 --> 00:14:17,899 blue sky but it was actually kind of 279 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:21,829 moving all over the place so anyways 280 00:14:28,809 --> 00:14:24,079 yeah it like I said these experiences 281 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:28,819 just reinforced my opinion that there's 282 00:14:35,079 --> 00:14:31,490 something that out there that we can't 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:35,089 explain at least the public is not aware 284 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:39,290 of and able to explain it doesn't scare 285 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:43,910 me it excites me it gets my mind going 286 00:14:49,170 --> 00:14:46,930 as to what it could be 287 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:49,180 and those possibilities of course are 288 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:55,000 endless but you know it's it's apparent 289 00:14:59,510 --> 00:14:56,440 when you experience something like that 290 00:15:02,400 --> 00:14:59,520 like so many of your listeners have that 291 00:15:06,510 --> 00:15:02,410 you can't even begin to explain it that 292 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:06,520 you don't know how to put it into a 293 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:09,550 perspective that fits your known reality 294 00:15:18,270 --> 00:15:13,360 it's just something you know it was just 295 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:18,280 crazy to me as if a you know a dragon 296 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:20,050 came flying down out of the air and flew 297 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:22,480 overhead like it's it's just something 298 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,400 that doesn't fit our reality what we 299 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:27,040 know of existence and to me that's very 300 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:31,810 exciting and I hope in my lifetime I'll 301 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:34,930 get more answers we all will then we are 302 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:38,350 now so anyways thanks Ryan 303 00:15:44,970 --> 00:15:41,320 I appreciate you fighting the good fight 304 00:15:45,540 --> 00:15:44,980 I love your podcast avid listener keep 305 00:15:48,530 --> 00:15:45,550 it up man 306 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:52,650 hi Ryan my name is Vince Busey 307 00:16:00,750 --> 00:15:55,420 I live in Brunswick Ohio which is just 308 00:16:03,570 --> 00:16:00,760 right outside of Cleveland Ohio and we 309 00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:03,580 had just moved into a new house and our 310 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:07,560 old house was less than a mile away and 311 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:10,180 my routine was that I would work my 312 00:16:16,650 --> 00:16:14,140 nine-to-five job and after I'd spend 313 00:16:18,570 --> 00:16:16,660 time with the family and eat dinner I 314 00:16:22,620 --> 00:16:18,580 would get ready to go work on the old 315 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:22,630 house to get it ready to sell one night 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:25,290 I finished up I'd say about 1:00 a.m. 317 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:29,650 and on the way home I hindered through 318 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:32,740 my development and I was going west and 319 00:16:38,610 --> 00:16:35,890 I saw something in the sky that I know I 320 00:16:44,370 --> 00:16:38,620 had not seen at least in the last few 321 00:16:47,610 --> 00:16:44,380 days it was probably about visually 2 322 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:47,620 inches above the tree line and it was 323 00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:49,570 strange enough that I stopped and got 324 00:16:55,170 --> 00:16:53,080 out of my car to take a look at it now 325 00:16:57,810 --> 00:16:55,180 granted I was pretty tired I looked at 326 00:17:00,210 --> 00:16:57,820 it and I was going to just shrug it off 327 00:17:03,870 --> 00:17:00,220 but I was about a thousand feet from my 328 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:03,880 driveway so I drove that got in my 329 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:06,310 driveway got out and took another good 330 00:17:11,790 --> 00:17:09,010 look at it and I just knew something 331 00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:11,800 wasn't right about it and I'll give you 332 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:14,400 an idea what it looked like first of all 333 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:18,850 in the night sky it was slightly larger 334 00:17:26,490 --> 00:17:24,220 than my thumb and I wouldn't say that it 335 00:17:29,660 --> 00:17:26,500 was giving off light I would say that it 336 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:29,670 was illuminated it wasn't like shining 337 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:33,730 but the way I would explain it was it 338 00:17:40,290 --> 00:17:36,910 looked like the moon would low on the 339 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,300 horizon on a hazy humid dark night it 340 00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:43,120 was just an eerie like a vanilla looking 341 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:47,680 white so anyways I stood there and I 342 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:50,350 watched it and then I thought to myself 343 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:52,660 you know what no one is gonna believe me 344 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:56,140 about this so I ran into the house now 345 00:18:00,580 --> 00:17:57,610 this was a school night and it was 346 00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:00,590 probably 1:30 a.m. 347 00:18:06,129 --> 00:18:04,070 and I woke my daughter and my son up my 348 00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:06,139 daughter 16 years old at this time my 349 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:08,840 son was 13 years old and I got them to 350 00:18:16,570 --> 00:18:14,570 come outside and my son being the 351 00:18:19,570 --> 00:18:16,580 skeptic that he is probably lasted about 352 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:19,580 3 minutes taking a look at it and he 353 00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:23,210 said I'm going inside but I know that he 354 00:18:28,539 --> 00:18:25,820 went inside because he was scared he you 355 00:18:31,419 --> 00:18:28,549 could see the fear in his eyes so he 356 00:18:34,749 --> 00:18:31,429 went inside my daughter and I stayed out 357 00:18:36,249 --> 00:18:34,759 in the driveway watched it a couple more 358 00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,259 minutes and then I realized hey you know 359 00:18:40,090 --> 00:18:38,240 what I got binoculars and I knew exactly 360 00:18:42,340 --> 00:18:40,100 where they were because I did all the 361 00:18:46,619 --> 00:18:42,350 boxing when we moved out of the old 362 00:18:49,989 --> 00:18:46,629 house so I came in I got the binoculars 363 00:18:55,180 --> 00:18:49,999 and ran back outside and I took the 364 00:18:56,999 --> 00:18:55,190 first view out of the binoculars and I 365 00:19:00,999 --> 00:18:57,009 couldn't believe what I was looking at I 366 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:01,009 was looking at something that was kind 367 00:19:05,889 --> 00:19:03,320 of egg-shaped not as dramatic as an egg 368 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:05,899 shape that was whiter than it was tall 369 00:19:12,639 --> 00:19:09,529 and the best way I can describe it is 370 00:19:15,399 --> 00:19:12,649 the bottom of it looked like it was made 371 00:19:18,489 --> 00:19:15,409 out of old clad iron like rivets like 372 00:19:22,210 --> 00:19:18,499 you'd see on an old ship or an old 373 00:19:25,659 --> 00:19:22,220 submarine with seams but it just looked 374 00:19:28,899 --> 00:19:25,669 old and from the halfway point up it 375 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:28,909 looked really modern and the best way I 376 00:19:34,539 --> 00:19:31,220 could describe the upper part is that as 377 00:19:37,239 --> 00:19:34,549 if you were looking from underneath up 378 00:19:40,690 --> 00:19:37,249 looking at a bridge like with girders 379 00:19:42,639 --> 00:19:40,700 and I remember vividly seeing what 380 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:42,649 looked like lures like you'd see on an 381 00:19:49,629 --> 00:19:46,070 old z28 or an old muscle car you you see 382 00:19:51,639 --> 00:19:49,639 those lures and then also I remember and 383 00:19:55,330 --> 00:19:51,649 this is gonna sound crazy but the top of 384 00:19:56,739 --> 00:19:55,340 it was shaped like a genies lamp that's 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:19:56,749 the best way I could describe this thing 386 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:01,570 I gave the binoculars to my daughter and 387 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:05,840 she also she didn't have the words that 388 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:07,970 I had to explain it but she explained it 389 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:10,129 pretty much the same way that I had said 390 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:11,280 it 391 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:16,770 about another five minutes trading off 392 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:19,800 binoculars and this thing just was not 393 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:22,950 moving it was just in the sky and it was 394 00:20:31,070 --> 00:20:26,670 not moving so I looked at it through the 395 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:31,080 binoculars again and it scared me to 396 00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:31,490 death 397 00:20:37,130 --> 00:20:34,470 because something had changed to me it 398 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:37,140 looked like it was sitting on top of 399 00:20:44,180 --> 00:20:42,230 like a pedestal like a gray white 400 00:20:48,620 --> 00:20:44,190 pedestal that's the best way I can 401 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:48,630 explain it very rigid edges so I handed 402 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:51,030 the binoculars to my daughter and I 403 00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:51,770 asked her 404 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:54,270 tell me what's changed I didn't want to 405 00:20:59,090 --> 00:20:56,250 tell her what I had seen but I said tell 406 00:21:00,920 --> 00:20:59,100 me what's changed and she looked at it 407 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,930 and she looked at me and she said oh my 408 00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:03,120 god dad that's a beam of light coming 409 00:21:12,290 --> 00:21:07,680 out of this thing so we both at that 410 00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,300 point we were freaked out and she lasted 411 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:14,640 probably about another two or three 412 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:16,650 minutes and she was scared to death she 413 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:20,010 ran inside I on the other hand stood out 414 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:21,960 probably for about another two to three 415 00:21:27,410 --> 00:21:24,660 minutes with him without the binoculars 416 00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:27,420 and I too felt the exact same thing I 417 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:30,660 felt fear I felt dread I felt like I was 418 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:33,000 seeing something that I was not supposed 419 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:35,370 to see and ironically enough that's how 420 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:38,730 my daughter sort of explained it so I 421 00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:44,550 came inside I was exhausted and I took a 422 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:49,980 shower and then I went to bed once in 423 00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:52,710 bed I realized I could see this thing 424 00:21:59,300 --> 00:21:55,500 still it was I could see it right out my 425 00:22:02,060 --> 00:21:59,310 window and then this is when I noticed 426 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:02,070 this thing actually is moving and it was 427 00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:04,770 moving so slow that the only way I could 428 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:09,500 tell was by the frame of my window I 429 00:22:15,980 --> 00:22:13,170 watched it in comparison and it was 430 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:15,990 moving so slow like you would see the 431 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:19,470 moon move if you were sky watching it 432 00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:22,120 was moving horizontally though 433 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:27,460 and I watched it for at least another 15 434 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:29,560 minutes and then I don't remember 435 00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:33,010 anything and I had fallen asleep in the 436 00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:36,790 morning I decided I was going to make it 437 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:41,440 call to MUFON and I did that and it must 438 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:43,090 have been a pretty good story because 439 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:45,550 within 24 to 48 hours 440 00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:49,450 I had a field rep field investigator at 441 00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:53,800 my doorstep and it was really nice to 442 00:22:59,100 --> 00:22:55,990 have someone to tell my story to and he 443 00:23:02,730 --> 00:22:59,110 did a great job of showing me with his 444 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:02,740 program what was supposed to be in the 445 00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:05,680 night sky what was in the night sky and 446 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,180 what shouldn't be in the night sky and 447 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:09,760 what I saw that night was not supposed 448 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:10,510 to be there 449 00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:13,750 I did get some pictures of it but it was 450 00:23:18,450 --> 00:23:16,390 with an old flip phone but it was still 451 00:23:21,780 --> 00:23:18,460 enough to see that there was something 452 00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:21,790 there so my story is on MUFON it does 453 00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:23,640 have a case number 454 00:23:32,190 --> 00:23:27,700 this experience has been both amazing 455 00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,200 and terrifying but I cannot wait to 456 00:23:37,530 --> 00:23:34,320 hopefully see something like this again 457 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:37,540 thank you again Ryan for letting me tell 458 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:41,230 my story and I love your show have a 459 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:46,960 good night bye hey y'all Ryan Sprague 460 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:48,730 here as you all know this somewhere in 461 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:51,010 the skies podcast is always free to 462 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:52,900 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sitting in my bedroom listening to the 477 00:24:45,090 --> 00:24:42,490 Phillies game and then my sister comes 478 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:45,100 running and saying ken ken there's a 479 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:48,040 flying saucer outside swingin at the top 480 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,950 of her lungs and I'm like yeah right and 481 00:24:55,980 --> 00:24:52,480 I thought she was just fooling around 482 00:24:59,960 --> 00:24:55,990 because she knew I was into reading UFO 483 00:25:04,620 --> 00:24:59,970 books and whatnot so anyway I go outside 484 00:25:05,850 --> 00:25:04,630 I'm like holy crap and there was a whole 485 00:25:07,770 --> 00:25:05,860 bunch of people in the neighborhood 486 00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:07,780 looking at this thing it must have been 487 00:25:13,890 --> 00:25:10,060 about a hundred feet high off the ground 488 00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:13,900 it was circular and it had multicolored 489 00:25:18,570 --> 00:25:15,550 lights going around the center of it and 490 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:18,580 I do remember that one of the lights was 491 00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:20,980 black I mean maybe there wasn't a light 492 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,630 there but it was blacked out the section 493 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:24,640 where I should have been was blacked out 494 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:27,700 and I just watched it then my father 495 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:30,010 came home and he's like what's everyone 496 00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:31,450 looking at I like can't you see it right 497 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:31,750 there 498 00:25:37,620 --> 00:25:36,130 and he's a holy crap too and he took out 499 00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:37,630 his binoculars and looked at it and I 500 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:39,220 asked her what does it look like through 501 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:39,790 binoculars 502 00:25:47,370 --> 00:25:43,890 he says the same only bigger and then 503 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:47,380 Wow and then after math we watch this 504 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:49,630 for about an hour the lights just went 505 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,060 out on the thing and where he used to be 506 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:54,880 was just blank space in the sky there 507 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,010 and then that was it and I went inside 508 00:26:00,810 --> 00:25:59,440 and everything I'm coming up boxes every 509 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:00,820 half hour coming up to see if it came 510 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:04,370 back but it never did 511 00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:10,730 so I was 18 and in college at University 512 00:26:14,590 --> 00:26:12,590 of Colorado at Boulder so I was in 513 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:14,600 Boulder Colorado and if you don't know 514 00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:17,990 Colorado near the Denver area is X or 515 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:20,060 just Colorado in general I think they 516 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:22,850 have a lot of UFO sightings in Colorado 517 00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:24,710 I wasn't thinking about that though at 518 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:28,400 the time so it was a nighttime thing I 519 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:32,210 was out bored and no friends this is my 520 00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:34,610 first semester of college and I decided 521 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:36,800 to climb the it's ironic because I 522 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:40,250 climbed the Astronomy building it was 523 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:42,530 like the side of the building was like 524 00:26:47,470 --> 00:26:45,380 it was a very tall it was like slanted 525 00:26:48,580 --> 00:26:47,480 and they had like bricks going I'm kind 526 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:48,590 of like a pyramid I don't know how to 527 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:50,630 describe it so I climbed up the side of 528 00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:52,580 it and was sitting up there you know 529 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,190 doing whatever so I'm looking up at the 530 00:27:00,060 --> 00:26:56,960 stars and I see this constellation it's 531 00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:00,070 like a square but it's like moving 532 00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:02,870 slowly very slowly like and I'm like 533 00:27:06,610 --> 00:27:03,950 that is weird 534 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:06,620 so I'm watching it and I'm like there's 535 00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:07,850 no way those are stars 536 00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:10,060 they're not airplanes because they don't 537 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:12,440 move they're not making noise it wasn't 538 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:14,450 helicopters it was just silent like 539 00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:17,750 moving across the sky slowly so it's 540 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:19,070 like that's weird I didn't really think 541 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:24,170 anything of it and so I was like that's 542 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:25,390 strange 543 00:27:30,550 --> 00:27:27,410 anyway I'm sitting there still right 544 00:27:32,550 --> 00:27:30,560 after that I don't remember how long it 545 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:32,560 was going for it right after that though 546 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:37,910 this the formation of lights looking 547 00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:40,010 like stars but much lower than the first 548 00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:40,580 one 549 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:42,590 and when I say V formation it's like you 550 00:27:48,850 --> 00:27:45,650 know when geese are flying south for the 551 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:48,860 winter or wherever wherever they fly and 552 00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:51,530 they fly in that V formation this is how 553 00:27:59,710 --> 00:27:54,020 those stars were aligned and they flew 554 00:28:03,340 --> 00:27:59,720 over fast like in low and no sound flew 555 00:28:06,610 --> 00:28:03,350 over quick and I was like good shook I 556 00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:06,620 was like whoa what the heck was that I 557 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:09,950 was like really shook up about that and 558 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:11,410 so 559 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:14,470 I was like oh my god that was UFOs 560 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:17,590 that's weird so I called my dad I climb 561 00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:19,660 up off the tower I call my dad 562 00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:22,660 cuz he's into conspiracies and UFOs and 563 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:24,670 all that and I'm telling him about it 564 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:25,990 and all of a sudden are my phone 565 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:29,860 disconnects and I can't call out for 566 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:32,980 like 10 minutes and eventually he was 567 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:35,230 able to call back and he was scared 568 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:37,570 because they was saying like the number 569 00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:38,910 you're trying to reach is like out of 570 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:43,180 like service area I don't know it was a 571 00:28:47,910 --> 00:28:44,770 weird message we never heard before but 572 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:47,920 I totally believe in UFOs now when I say 573 00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:50,590 I believe in UFOs Colorado has a lot of 574 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:52,540 military installations so when I say a 575 00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:55,210 UFO it could have been it's just an 576 00:28:59,970 --> 00:28:56,950 unidentified flying object it could have 577 00:29:03,090 --> 00:28:59,980 been in government technology it could 578 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:03,100 have been like top-secret technology or 579 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,870 it could have been aliens I don't know 580 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,640 I'm open to all things I have a very 581 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:09,520 open mind I've definitely seen them when 582 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:12,370 I moved to New Orleans I've seen UFOs as 583 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:15,610 well we're now here when I saw UFOs when 584 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:20,530 I saw the UFOs in Colorado they were 585 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:23,530 like like the color of stars so white I 586 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:24,850 guess they just literally look like 587 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:27,970 stars that are moving fast so but when I 588 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:28,810 moved here 589 00:29:36,530 --> 00:29:31,840 I'm I've seen UFOs like that before too 590 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:36,540 but I've also seen they were red and 591 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:40,620 they will at first I think they're like 592 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,190 airplanes but when you watch them 593 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,240 they're not moving like airplanes 594 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:49,360 because they'll melt like stop or they 595 00:29:54,930 --> 00:29:53,440 will just zoom around or they they just 596 00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:54,940 don't move like planes you know they'll 597 00:30:00,060 --> 00:29:57,940 go up down and whatever for a moment in 598 00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:00,070 my life I was like obsessed with it like 599 00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:02,020 always looking outside always looking in 600 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:04,180 the sky to see if there's UFOs and drove 601 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:07,390 me a little bit crazy so then I let it 602 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:07,840 go 603 00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:11,080 but I've definitely seen UFOs multiple 604 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:13,780 times and you know I just I don't 605 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:16,660 understand it or what's going on and I 606 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:18,190 believe that they are there and they are 607 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:22,570 there and I'm like I see you I know you 608 00:30:29,550 --> 00:30:24,810 are there but what can I do about it 609 00:30:31,410 --> 00:30:29,560 no they're real and when I've never had 610 00:30:33,450 --> 00:30:31,420 anything happen where like they land or 611 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:33,460 I see any aliens cuz that would probably 612 00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:35,890 just shake me to my core and I don't 613 00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:38,320 know if I'd survive you know and that's 614 00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:44,260 all I got to say on that uh hello my 615 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:49,630 name is Andy and I wanted to share a UFO 616 00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:53,140 experience I had with to my friends back 617 00:31:03,330 --> 00:30:58,350 in 2003 as in the Sierra Cascades 618 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:03,340 Northern California is west northwest of 619 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:08,610 Lake Philbrook which is I'd say 20 miles 620 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:11,010 north-northeast of Starling city 621 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:15,490 California dirt roads a lot of logging 622 00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:18,610 roads up there and I want to say it was 623 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:22,060 July being theirs at that altitude 624 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:24,850 throughout 7,000 feet there's usually 625 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:27,310 snow around eight months out of the year 626 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:30,490 and when we were out there where there 627 00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:33,520 was no snow wearing t-shirts it was warm 628 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:35,800 weather or so it had to have been right 629 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:38,340 right at the hot hot point of summer 630 00:31:46,620 --> 00:31:41,590 anyway I guess we'll get started 631 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:46,630 so we like always you know we drive up 632 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:49,060 those logging roads I had a whole 1970 633 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:52,870 Ford pickup sport custom truck I love 634 00:32:00,030 --> 00:31:56,470 that thing went everywhere and any way 635 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:00,040 we possibly could in the mountains up in 636 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:03,790 this area we've found plenty of places 637 00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:07,360 to camp and one one place we were liked 638 00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:11,760 in particular it was an old old logging 639 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:15,460 ground and it was a pretty nice spot it 640 00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:18,190 was like being in a miniature force by 641 00:32:24,890 --> 00:32:22,600 way me and my friend Jason and I drove 642 00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:24,900 up in my truck 643 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:28,350 and I get there at that time it was 644 00:32:33,650 --> 00:32:31,290 still still daytime when we got there we 645 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:33,660 just hung out for a while went hiking 646 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:36,809 did what we usually do just explored the 647 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:40,800 area talked about random stuff at the 648 00:32:48,290 --> 00:32:45,120 time IRA was really really delving into 649 00:32:50,299 --> 00:32:48,300 Christianity and and he was really 650 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:50,309 fascinated with revelations in 651 00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:53,520 particular at that time so he brought 652 00:33:01,370 --> 00:32:58,740 his Bible and yeah kinda tortured Jason 653 00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:01,380 a little bit talking you know just 654 00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:03,540 reading reading out of Revelations and 655 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:05,190 basically saying the world was gonna add 656 00:33:11,299 --> 00:33:08,340 today too and anyway it just got a lot 657 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:11,309 of Davis thing and kind of fun to 658 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,370 philosophize about anyway I don't know 659 00:33:18,049 --> 00:33:15,360 what time it was 660 00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:18,059 Sun had been down for an hour - at this 661 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:21,540 point and you know he had a fire already 662 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:24,450 and cooked her cooked our meals and we 663 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:25,679 were to sit in the back of the truck and 664 00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:29,490 yeah I first thing I remember is hearing 665 00:33:35,030 --> 00:33:32,580 it and it's really really difficult for 666 00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:35,040 me to describe I cannot make the sound I 667 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,040 can't make the sound with my own voice 668 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:40,080 and I don't know if I could even do it 669 00:33:45,980 --> 00:33:43,110 really maybe with a computer I don't 670 00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:45,990 know but uh the best way I can describe 671 00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:49,559 it is if you can imagine a two-stroke 672 00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:53,040 motorcycle idling and then mix that with 673 00:33:59,780 --> 00:33:57,420 a dog growling and then submerge both of 674 00:34:03,340 --> 00:33:59,790 those sounds in water so that are 675 00:34:07,910 --> 00:34:03,350 they're bubbling so is like a muffled 676 00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:07,920 underwater motorcycle that's idling but 677 00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:10,350 growling at the same time that's all we 678 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:12,230 heard we're gonna have to use your 679 00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:15,990 imagination yes alright that's the first 680 00:34:21,770 --> 00:34:19,020 thing and you know I you know I look at 681 00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:21,780 Jason I look at her and kind of like 682 00:34:31,010 --> 00:34:26,100 okay like this is a weird sound and and 683 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:31,020 I I look up and it had to have been at 684 00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:35,700 the very least the very least a large 685 00:34:40,099 --> 00:34:38,099 craft the size of an ant 686 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:40,109 her football stadium not just the field 687 00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:43,609 but the whole entire stadium just giant 688 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:49,619 giant you know I would say maybe half a 689 00:34:58,460 --> 00:34:54,960 mile to a mile across almost even at the 690 00:35:03,559 --> 00:34:58,470 very least a full football stadium in 691 00:35:06,319 --> 00:35:03,569 size and it was going really slow it was 692 00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:06,329 it went directly directly our almost 693 00:35:13,489 --> 00:35:09,180 centered perfectly centered almost above 694 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:13,499 my truck and us yeah the second thing I 695 00:35:20,779 --> 00:35:17,299 noticed when I when I finally noticed it 696 00:35:23,479 --> 00:35:20,789 was the stars were blotted out like a 697 00:35:26,989 --> 00:35:23,489 huge swath of the sky was was blotted 698 00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:26,999 out as the second thing I noticed after 699 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,430 the sound third thing I noticed was the 700 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:32,400 weird light pattern there was a crescent 701 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,609 light pattern in the front and then a 702 00:35:42,259 --> 00:35:37,680 line that went directly down the middle 703 00:35:45,319 --> 00:35:42,269 and then a circular shape of Lights in 704 00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:45,329 the back they're all white I'd say the 705 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:48,529 Crescent portion had five white lights 706 00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:51,960 then there is five or six running down 707 00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:54,920 the middle these are large large lights 708 00:36:01,489 --> 00:35:57,119 five or six running down the middle and 709 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:01,499 then at the back it was I don't know 710 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:04,380 five I think again lights that were in a 711 00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:07,140 circular pattern and the silhouette of 712 00:36:15,049 --> 00:36:11,869 this craft was if you were to take I 713 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:15,059 don't know three quarters of an egg so 714 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:17,729 cut off a quarter of an egg just the end 715 00:36:25,309 --> 00:36:22,710 of it and then put a golf ball up 716 00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:25,319 against it so you have three quarters of 717 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:27,390 an egg running into a golf ball that was 718 00:36:34,279 --> 00:36:29,430 the shape of this thing except it's the 719 00:36:36,709 --> 00:36:34,289 size of a football stadium and it's 720 00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:36,719 making this weird sound and it's very 721 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:40,469 very slowly cruising over directly over 722 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:43,920 us so we you know I looked up and I 723 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:45,180 looked down at my friends and they're 724 00:36:49,489 --> 00:36:47,369 all looking up and they're looking at it 725 00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:49,499 obviously in IRA his II just stopped 726 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:51,510 reading his mouth is just 727 00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:55,710 dropped eyes wide open he he didn't talk 728 00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,220 the whole time actually and me and Jason 729 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:01,680 ever looking Asia looking up looking at 730 00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:05,400 it like like okay what is that you know 731 00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:08,070 what the hell is that what is that sound 732 00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:10,950 just like yeah wait I didn't know what 733 00:37:17,450 --> 00:37:14,400 the hell we're looking for we could see 734 00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:17,460 it did we can hear it we all knew each 735 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:19,500 other we're seeing and hearing it but 736 00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:22,770 none of us like so like really believed 737 00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:26,910 what we were looking at and after a 738 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:29,580 couple minutes we just didn't talk to 739 00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:32,210 each other we just watched this thing 740 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:36,780 slowly cruise across the skyline and we 741 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:38,850 watched it for a good 10 minutes I'd 742 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:41,430 have been at least 10 minutes I mean it 743 00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:44,040 was it wasn't going fast and it and zip 744 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:47,190 off or you know disappear or anything it 745 00:37:51,830 --> 00:37:49,650 just slowly creeped out of our sight 746 00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:51,840 over the treeline and so we couldn't see 747 00:37:59,090 --> 00:37:57,270 it anymore and you know I've had a few 748 00:38:00,740 --> 00:37:59,100 of these encounters and the one of the 749 00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:00,750 weird things about them is when they 750 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:04,080 happen me and the people I'm with we 751 00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:06,450 don't talk about it the next day and we 752 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:08,300 don't even talk about the day after that 753 00:38:13,610 --> 00:38:11,130 we don't talk about it for months we 754 00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:13,620 always end up waiting a year or two 755 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:15,960 before we bring it up again and then 756 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:17,730 when we do it's kind of this like 757 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:20,370 awkward and weird 758 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:24,890 it's the way I'd say year to later I 759 00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:28,890 tried talking to IRA about it and keep 760 00:38:35,570 --> 00:38:31,740 that he wouldn't do it he said I'm not 761 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:35,580 gonna talk about this with you this goes 762 00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:38,210 against my belief system I can't do it 763 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:42,150 he had at that time was very very 764 00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:45,060 full-blown I wouldn't want it don't want 765 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:46,680 to say Christian because that's not he 766 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:50,340 was very very adamant about his beliefs 767 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:53,760 let's just put it that way and so anyway 768 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:56,730 he wouldn't talk about it I hadn't have 769 00:39:01,940 --> 00:38:59,130 never been able you know to talk about 770 00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:01,950 and now I haven't spoken to him for 771 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:05,430 years and I don't know what he's up to 772 00:39:16,579 --> 00:39:09,450 or anything but Jason the other guy was 773 00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:16,589 there that can think is 2011 so was that 774 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:21,000 eight years after the sighting me and 775 00:39:25,370 --> 00:39:24,150 ever roommates we've roommate it with 776 00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:25,380 each other moved into a house together 777 00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:29,280 and one night you know I just kind of 778 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:31,740 brought it up and I was you know and we 779 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:33,240 started talking about it and talking 780 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,220 about the sound and everything and then 781 00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:36,960 he starts describing what it looked like 782 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:39,540 and I'm like way that just doesn't sound 783 00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:42,089 right cuz he started talking about red 784 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:45,030 lights I'm thinking oh I didn't see you 785 00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:47,910 only saw white lights so I asked I was 786 00:39:53,539 --> 00:39:50,609 like okay you draw what you saw what I 787 00:39:57,609 --> 00:39:53,549 saw he described the sound being exactly 788 00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:57,619 the same like the dog growling a 789 00:40:02,480 --> 00:39:59,579 motorcycle underwater 790 00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:02,490 he described the size as being exactly 791 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,940 the same just a massive football stadium 792 00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:07,920 size saying that just creeped over 793 00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:12,750 it's very perplexing this is probably as 794 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:15,960 mind-boggling if not more so 795 00:40:21,470 --> 00:40:18,710 mind-boggling than the encounter itself 796 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:21,480 okay what I drew is what I described 797 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:23,250 earlier the crescent-shaped lights the 798 00:40:31,819 --> 00:40:26,460 egg in the circle and you know white 799 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:31,829 lights in a total of you know maybe 15 800 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:35,450 to 20 lights why he describes is a 801 00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,079 perfect square with I'd say two or three 802 00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:43,440 dozen bright red smaller lights lining 803 00:40:49,309 --> 00:40:46,260 the edges that's why he saw go over ass 804 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:49,319 at night a massive football stadium 805 00:40:56,740 --> 00:40:53,730 sized square with red lights I saw a 806 00:41:03,650 --> 00:40:56,750 massive football stadium oval-shaped 807 00:41:12,539 --> 00:41:09,479 that to me definitely provided way more 808 00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:12,549 questions I have about that whole all of 809 00:41:18,089 --> 00:41:14,920 it any UFO count or any paranoia any 810 00:41:19,739 --> 00:41:18,099 supernatural any of it I have more 811 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:19,749 questions about that stuff than I do 812 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:23,410 answers because it just I don't know it 813 00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:25,690 wasn't we just saw something fly over us 814 00:41:31,979 --> 00:41:28,660 it's we describe it in two completely 815 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:31,989 different ways visually anyway not as 816 00:41:39,059 --> 00:41:34,710 far as sighs but as far as shape and 817 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:39,069 color goes and it's extremely confusing 818 00:41:45,989 --> 00:41:43,440 to me I don't know I don't know if I am 819 00:41:48,209 --> 00:41:45,999 even though I'm the one thing this and 820 00:41:50,249 --> 00:41:48,219 and there are skeptics out there they're 821 00:41:51,930 --> 00:41:50,259 probably gonna listen to this and you 822 00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:51,940 know be like oh man he's full of crap 823 00:41:57,870 --> 00:41:55,390 you have to understand something I am 824 00:42:00,479 --> 00:41:57,880 the biggest skeptic in this whole thing 825 00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:00,489 because I have no idea I do not have a 826 00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:02,589 single answer of what happened that 827 00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:05,049 night I don't know if it was a figment 828 00:42:11,609 --> 00:42:08,190 of our imaginations we all shared some 829 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:11,619 hallucination somehow some plane I don't 830 00:42:15,209 --> 00:42:13,569 know some implanted I don't know that's 831 00:42:18,299 --> 00:42:15,219 what I keep hearing people are like are 832 00:42:20,130 --> 00:42:18,309 sharing hallucinations and and then the 833 00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:20,140 people call it a day they don't provide 834 00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:21,400 any evidence that we're sharing 835 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:23,140 hallucinations they just say you're 836 00:42:26,789 --> 00:42:25,089 you're just sharing hallucinations it's 837 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:26,799 like well okay if that's what's 838 00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:29,890 happening how the hell are people all 839 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:33,460 over the world sharing hallucination 840 00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:35,529 simultaneously at the exact same time in 841 00:42:40,709 --> 00:42:37,950 the middle of the damn woods especially 842 00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:40,719 how does that happen what's causing that 843 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,319 oh I have a million questions I don't 844 00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:46,960 know what we saw how is even possible 845 00:42:53,549 --> 00:42:49,150 because nothing man-made that we know of 846 00:42:58,739 --> 00:42:53,559 anyway that there's nothing we can never 847 00:43:02,400 --> 00:42:58,749 as far as we know as far as we know the 848 00:43:05,849 --> 00:43:02,410 general population puts something the 849 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:05,859 size of a football stadium in the sky 850 00:43:11,549 --> 00:43:08,319 and have it just you know kind of 851 00:43:14,729 --> 00:43:11,559 creeped by there's we just now we don't 852 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:14,739 we don't have that technology or we do 853 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:15,400 and 854 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:19,150 only a few people know about it I have 855 00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:21,790 no idea what we saw that night I don't 856 00:43:31,890 --> 00:43:25,420 know if it was real if it was aliens if 857 00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:31,900 it was a hallucination if it was I don't 858 00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:35,830 know but anyway I just figured I'd share 859 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:40,600 it maybe someone around the area around 860 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:44,800 that time saw something similar that's 861 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:47,500 about all I can hope for maybe somebody 862 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:48,760 else has had a similar experience 863 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:51,100 somewhere else in the world where them 864 00:43:56,340 --> 00:43:53,410 and their friends saw something but they 865 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:56,350 kind of perceive it differently but 866 00:44:02,820 --> 00:43:58,290 they're all sure that they saw something 867 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:02,830 but yeah so that's that's one of my 868 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:05,850 experiences thank you for listening and 869 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:09,610 yeah if you want to see this kind of 870 00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:11,590 stuff for yourself the only thing I can 871 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:13,270 say is get out in the middle of nowhere 872 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:16,210 as often as possible because all the 873 00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:19,210 most amazing things as far as this kind 874 00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:22,630 of thing goes I've mostly been out in 875 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:24,040 the middle of nowhere when I saw them 876 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:27,730 and I've had a pretty good view of the 877 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:31,720 sky when it all happened so point being 878 00:44:36,750 --> 00:44:34,090 if you're sitting at home watching TV or 879 00:44:38,310 --> 00:44:36,760 you know sitting on your cell phone or 880 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:38,320 even if you do go out and you're just 881 00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:41,410 you know face down into your tablet 882 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,390 you're probably not gonna experience 883 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:46,000 anything like this or maybe you will I 884 00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:48,220 don't know the outside that's all I know 885 00:44:58,580 --> 00:44:54,000 so anyway thank you 886 00:45:00,680 --> 00:44:58,590 I think we have a story that is maybe 887 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:00,690 gonna pull us back into the UFO world a 888 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:02,609 world that we probably both thought we 889 00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:06,450 escaped from maybe 20 years ago so what 890 00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:08,609 we'll share the story with Ryan and 891 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:11,580 we'll see what he and his his listeners 892 00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:14,880 think I'm Jordan Bonaparte I hosts a 893 00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:17,190 show called the nighttime podcast which 894 00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:20,310 covers Canadian crime and mysteries and 895 00:45:25,370 --> 00:45:23,369 UFO stories from across Canada you are 896 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:25,380 my brother Jay and tell us a bit about 897 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:25,890 you 898 00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:29,609 well I live in Ottawa right now and play 899 00:45:32,839 --> 00:45:31,740 in a band called paragon cause so we 900 00:45:34,339 --> 00:45:32,849 record a bunch of music and all that 901 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:34,349 stuff and then I actually work in the 902 00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:35,910 hospital here in Ottawa as well 903 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:39,990 we both had a UFO experience maybe I 904 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:43,950 guess this was probably 25 years ago in 905 00:45:49,070 --> 00:45:47,220 Sydney Nova Scotia and I believe I was 906 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:49,080 probably about seven or eight years old 907 00:45:54,349 --> 00:45:50,609 so that would have put it probably late 908 00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:54,359 80s is that when you write I'm guessing 909 00:46:01,070 --> 00:45:58,530 I was 11 12 that age yeah and it wasn't 910 00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:01,080 just us like the way it went down is and 911 00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:02,940 this is one of those things where I'm 912 00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:04,260 sure we both have a different 913 00:46:07,849 --> 00:46:05,880 recollection of it but the way I 914 00:46:10,310 --> 00:46:07,859 remember it it was like a school night 915 00:46:12,410 --> 00:46:10,320 and we were at the top of the street in 916 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:12,420 someone's backyard in the winter 917 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:14,490 sledding and it was like you and I as 918 00:46:18,050 --> 00:46:16,170 well as all the neighborhood kids like I 919 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:18,060 remember everyone being there yeah 920 00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:20,220 there's like me you and maybe 10 12 921 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:22,680 other kids like I remember a bunch I 922 00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:24,570 remember exactly who I was standing next 923 00:46:28,579 --> 00:46:26,760 to who I was with and it was the hill 924 00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:28,589 that we always went on we were there 925 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,880 every night the winter sledding in the 926 00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:32,160 backyard yeah and the way the yard went 927 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:33,900 is like our street was kind of a 928 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:35,940 dead-end street kind of built onto a 929 00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:38,250 hill and when you were sledding you were 930 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:40,380 kind of going from the street down into 931 00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:42,210 like the woods that was you know 932 00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:44,070 surrounded our dead-end streets so it 933 00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:45,960 was yeah it was like a boundary where 934 00:46:49,339 --> 00:46:47,880 the tree started at the bottom of the 935 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,349 hill yeah exactly 936 00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:51,359 and so again it was it was a school 937 00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,820 night son it couldn't have been that 938 00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:55,560 late because it was all the neighborhood 939 00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:57,300 kids that were out but the Sun was 940 00:47:02,570 --> 00:46:59,940 certainly down it was nighttime it was a 941 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:02,580 dark sky backlights LED light was on so 942 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:03,450 it was late enough that I remember 943 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,440 there's a floodlight 944 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:06,480 yeah illuminating the backyard yeah 945 00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:07,930 exactly so when you were 946 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:09,430 the hill you were like down in the 947 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:11,170 darkness then you would pull your sled 948 00:47:15,870 --> 00:47:13,450 up the hill up into the litt backyard is 949 00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:15,880 the way I recall it and exactly the way 950 00:47:20,010 --> 00:47:17,740 I remember it as I slid down the hill 951 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:20,020 and I was among the younger kids because 952 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,970 if most of the kids were like a year 953 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:23,440 three or four years older than me most 954 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:24,970 of them were around your age so I 955 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:27,010 remember being down the bottom of the 956 00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:28,930 hill looking up at everyone kind of 957 00:47:32,910 --> 00:47:30,550 slowly coming down the hill and whatnot 958 00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:32,920 sledding and the way I remember it 959 00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,060 happening was this bizarre sound that 960 00:47:41,730 --> 00:47:39,520 almost sounded like just every bit of 961 00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:41,740 sound getting sucked out of the sky and 962 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:43,180 out of the world like I remembered like 963 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:46,630 a second of split silence followed by 964 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:49,510 the brightest light that I've ever seen 965 00:47:55,050 --> 00:47:52,210 like it went from darkness to brighter 966 00:47:56,910 --> 00:47:55,060 than daylight instantly yeah so the 967 00:47:59,460 --> 00:47:56,920 weird thing is me and you I don't think 968 00:48:02,190 --> 00:47:59,470 we talked about this never never like 969 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,200 the we are now no no and so like you're 970 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:03,760 telling me that story kind of gave me 971 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:05,770 the chills because my recollection is I 972 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:08,410 was standing next to my friend Brian and 973 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:11,290 I remarried because it's like clear as 974 00:48:13,470 --> 00:48:11,770 day 975 00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:13,480 I remember Ian blindly alright let's go 976 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:14,710 down the hill and we were kids alike 977 00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,930 let's count to five and we'll go so we 978 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,880 counted and we went down the hill and I 979 00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:21,280 remember it's kind of laughing and to me 980 00:48:27,810 --> 00:48:24,870 what I remember is again the trees the 981 00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:27,820 woods that there's just that sound of 982 00:48:32,670 --> 00:48:29,950 the outdoors and then all of a sudden it 983 00:48:34,890 --> 00:48:32,680 just stopped like nothing exists that 984 00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:34,900 there was no sound it wasn't that it was 985 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:39,220 quiet is that sound was gone and to me 986 00:48:43,050 --> 00:48:41,770 it felt like slow motion like I felt 987 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:43,060 like time stopped 988 00:48:49,790 --> 00:48:45,730 and I remember standing up and then 989 00:48:52,410 --> 00:48:49,800 again instantaneously within you know 990 00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:52,420 milliseconds there was this light that 991 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:55,420 felt like it was literally just a foot 992 00:48:59,730 --> 00:48:57,850 above my head that was so bright but at 993 00:49:02,040 --> 00:48:59,740 the same time I remember thinking that 994 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,050 it was incredibly bright but it wasn't 995 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:04,480 really blinding me like I could see the 996 00:49:09,630 --> 00:49:06,760 light and it was crazy black bright and 997 00:49:11,970 --> 00:49:09,640 I remember the slow-motion feeling I 998 00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:11,980 started turning my head to look up at 999 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:13,750 the sky because I wanted to know what it 1000 00:49:17,610 --> 00:49:15,790 was and I felt and I spoke to the day 1001 00:49:20,070 --> 00:49:17,620 remember it and it was like slow motion 1002 00:49:21,540 --> 00:49:20,080 and as I looked up what I remember is 1003 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:21,550 just this 1004 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:24,190 light like I couldn't see anything and 1005 00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:27,850 then I remember it just kind of sucked 1006 00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:31,480 itself into like a ball almost and then 1007 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:33,340 just I seen it just kind of shoot off 1008 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:37,330 into the sky but not like horizontally 1009 00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:40,330 like into the sky and then just go away 1010 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:43,150 and but I could see it like fly off into 1011 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:44,290 space face it 1012 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:46,750 yeah I I have the exact same memory I 1013 00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:49,570 remember when the light came and I 1014 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:51,190 realized like it all of a sudden it was 1015 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:52,750 incredibly bright I remember kind of 1016 00:49:57,210 --> 00:49:55,450 shielding my eyes and I can I almost had 1017 00:49:59,100 --> 00:49:57,220 this vision burnt into my mind of like 1018 00:50:01,710 --> 00:49:59,110 looking up at the hill probably looking 1019 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:01,720 for my older brother you and I remember 1020 00:50:05,340 --> 00:50:03,610 seeing all the kids kind of just 1021 00:50:07,110 --> 00:50:05,350 standing there you know looking at the 1022 00:50:08,970 --> 00:50:07,120 sky and down at me and I remember like 1023 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:08,980 the really hard shadow on the ground 1024 00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:11,920 like every kid had like you know like as 1025 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:13,600 a photographer if you have the flash on 1026 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:15,370 you get a really nasty shadow I just 1027 00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:17,290 remember this vision of all the kids 1028 00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:20,200 with their like sleds in their hand you 1029 00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:21,790 know with a bright light shining on them 1030 00:50:26,670 --> 00:50:24,190 and at the same thing is what you said I 1031 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:26,680 remember looking up and as I did I 1032 00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:28,900 almost describe it as like the light 1033 00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:31,030 being sucked into like the vacuum of 1034 00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:33,100 space because it just yeah exactly it 1035 00:50:39,540 --> 00:50:36,040 just yeah I just got smaller and just 1036 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,550 went away and as it went away the sound 1037 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:41,440 of the world came back kind of at the 1038 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,570 same back pace and I don't know about 1039 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:46,720 you but what I remember is silent but 1040 00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:49,360 then once it went away kids started 1041 00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:52,600 screaming and crying and everybody ran 1042 00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,580 home to their parents yeah into their 1043 00:50:59,250 --> 00:50:57,220 houses yeah like it was creak hey oh I 1044 00:51:02,850 --> 00:50:59,260 should ask dad about it because I do 1045 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:02,860 remember you and I and Brian and like 1046 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:04,330 all the kids just running down the 1047 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:06,850 street freaking out and I don't remember 1048 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:09,310 if we use the word UFO or like what we 1049 00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:11,050 thought had happened but I do remember 1050 00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:14,320 like running home and like running upset 1051 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:16,870 and telling dad what had happened the 1052 00:51:19,590 --> 00:51:18,310 other thing I remember though is I 1053 00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:19,600 remember when it happened 1054 00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:22,780 I I was looking towards the woods and 1055 00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:25,120 there was actually I could see I 1056 00:51:30,590 --> 00:51:28,420 remember seeing like a line where though 1057 00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:30,600 it wasn't like a light that was 1058 00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:33,580 diffusing and it was like a like a like 1059 00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:35,160 a like a a 1060 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:36,900 all about side I've never seen a 1061 00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:39,090 distinct line where the light stopped 1062 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:42,030 there was darkness beyond it it was very 1063 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:43,710 very weird like it was light that 1064 00:51:48,110 --> 00:51:46,260 whatever it was it wasn't normal light 1065 00:51:50,660 --> 00:51:48,120 like it was not normal it wasn't a 1066 00:51:52,820 --> 00:51:50,670 spotlight from a helicopter like it was 1067 00:51:55,850 --> 00:51:52,830 abnormal and I'm sure you'd agree like 1068 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:55,860 yeah even it even felt different yeah 1069 00:52:00,290 --> 00:51:57,330 felt different 1070 00:52:03,770 --> 00:52:00,300 yeah the way I remember it is it did 1071 00:52:06,050 --> 00:52:03,780 feel like the light was kind of in an 1072 00:52:07,850 --> 00:52:06,060 area around us like there was spots like 1073 00:52:10,850 --> 00:52:07,860 beyond where we were that were still 1074 00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:10,860 dark yeah but it wasn't a spotlight like 1075 00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:12,780 you said for one where we lived there 1076 00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,340 would never be a helicopter above a 1077 00:52:18,830 --> 00:52:17,040 shining like oh yeah kids but never but 1078 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:18,840 it was also a bigger area like it would 1079 00:52:25,940 --> 00:52:20,850 have lit up probably the area of like 1080 00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:25,950 one or two you know two yards that a 1081 00:52:30,590 --> 00:52:28,500 house would be sitting on yeah exactly 1082 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:30,600 and I think the other important thing is 1083 00:52:35,060 --> 00:52:32,130 like behind this house of woods behind 1084 00:52:36,740 --> 00:52:35,070 our house is like hundreds and hundreds 1085 00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,750 and hundreds of kilometers there's 1086 00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:38,400 nothing else behind it it's not like 1087 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:40,140 there's a little bit forest then another 1088 00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:42,210 Street like it is the forest until you 1089 00:52:47,060 --> 00:52:44,000 get water basically yeah the ocean 1090 00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:47,070 eventually you would get exactly but and 1091 00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:48,990 I actually brought this up with this guy 1092 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:51,180 Brian and he won't talk about it he's 1093 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:52,530 like I don't want to talk about I don't 1094 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:53,730 want to talk about it you won't talk 1095 00:53:00,020 --> 00:52:57,690 about this I've no idea why it's bizarre 1096 00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:00,030 super bizarre but it's a it's a weird 1097 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:02,070 thing because you know you experience 1098 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:04,730 that and I think you probably agree like 1099 00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:07,890 when people ask me if UFO exists I'm 1100 00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:10,980 like yeah I seem like there's no I'm not 1101 00:53:14,990 --> 00:53:13,080 crazy I'm a normal person and it is what 1102 00:53:17,570 --> 00:53:15,000 it is it's not there's no other 1103 00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:17,580 explanation like this is it was there 1104 00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:19,500 and it kind of changes your perspective 1105 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:22,500 on life in general because it's weird 1106 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:24,450 when you know but no one believes you 1107 00:53:30,050 --> 00:53:26,450 but at the same time they're like I know 1108 00:53:32,090 --> 00:53:30,060 I feel the exact same way well we'll 1109 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:32,100 give this story to Ryan and you never 1110 00:53:34,850 --> 00:53:33,330 know maybe we'll excite him and he'll 1111 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:34,860 investigate it and we can figure out 1112 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:37,140 what the hell happened definitely all 1113 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:37,710 right Jamie 1114 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:40,050 well thanks for for chatting this out 1115 00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:42,210 with me and hopefully Ryan can look into 1116 00:53:45,860 --> 00:53:44,040 it and maybe the Salib ins inspire the 1117 00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:45,870 next paragon cause song like you guys 1118 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:47,640 should do something about this 1119 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:49,890 it already has I think we may right we 1120 00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:51,210 just you know we're releasing a new 1121 00:53:55,790 --> 00:53:53,070 album this week on next Friday actually 1122 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:55,800 in the 17th and you know if it wasn't 1123 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:57,090 for that us all I wouldn't have the 1124 00:54:00,440 --> 00:53:58,290 talent to play the guitar because I'm 1125 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:00,450 pretty sure they installed that so I owe 1126 00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:02,610 them a lot of money there you go well 1127 00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:04,110 this is perfect Jayla thanks for talking 1128 00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:10,980 about thank you somewhere in the skies 1129 00:54:15,260 --> 00:54:13,320 is produced by Third Kind productions in 1130 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:15,270 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